I had a long conversation with Tony Merkel on the Confessionals podcast that posted today. I’ll attach the link, but the bot thinks it’s spam. You’ll have to search it out.
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That interview sure was long all right. Took me several days to get through it. 
I really like your point that Shroud presentations should not overstate the case and you did a great job sticking to that. I wish all Shroud presenters would follow that.